National Debt, Seeds Exchange, and NectarPay Tap-to-Pay
Thursday, October 15, 2026
Bobby connects national debt to the case for honest money, previews the unreleased Seeds exchange, and explains NectarPay NFC payments using limited wallet access.
The October 15, 2026 Honest Money Hour marked week 133 with Bobby Gray and co-host Matty. Bobby returned to the reason behind TEXITcoin: honest trade needs honest money. He described his move from skepticism about cryptocurrency to building a proof-of-work project grounded in his years working with gold, silver, and alternative currencies. National debt anchored the discussion. The hosts cited roughly $40 trillion in federal debt and revisited the October 2008 Troubled Asset Relief Program, which authorized up to $700 billion to stabilize the financial system. Bobby used a visualization in which each penny represented $100 million to explain the scale. His point was that households have to confront their budgets, while government borrowing has grown beyond numbers most people can meaningfully picture. The main technical preview was Seeds, available for an early look at seeds.honest.money. Bobby described it as a centralized, non-custodial exchange designed to coordinate trades without requiring users to surrender control of their entire wallets. Instead of depositing funds into an exchange-controlled pool and later requesting a withdrawal, users would grant access to a limited wallet derivation path containing only the funds they wanted to trade. Bobby said the design uses existing hierarchical deterministic wallet capabilities, where one seed can control many addresses. Under his proposed arrangement, users would retain access to their wallets if the exchange stopped operating. He also acknowledged that users would still be trusting the exchange software to act as instructed within the authorized portion. Seeds had not launched or received his final signoff; the preview was not an announcement of general availability. Bobby then explained how the same approach could support NectarPay tap-to-pay. An NFC card would link to an honest money ecosystem wallet, with spending access confined to a designated portion. A customer could place a limited amount there, such as $100, and use the card at a merchant without exposing the rest of the wallet to the payment system. Bobby said he had built that solution earlier that day and considered the implementation done, but did not announce a public rollout date. The practical goal is to connect consumers and small businesses through wallets and merchant terminals that are as straightforward to use as familiar card payments, while addressing merchants’ frustration with fees. Community outreach remained an important part of the call. The hosts reported at least 2,000 live viewers for the previous day’s conversation with Tiffany, their largest call so far, and had just finished a conversation with Wall Street Bets on X. Bobby said these appearances work best as open, unscripted discussions about honest money rather than sales pitches. He also emphasized TEXITcoin’s proof-of-work foundation and participation rules intended to preserve opportunities for individuals rather than let institutions buy control through concentrated hash power. He said the project had declined offers that did not fit those principles. The broader community message was about people learning together, sharing meals, and helping families and friends engage with a different monetary system. The close included participation limits, risk reminders, and a legal reference. Bobby said mining participation was not available to people in Arizona or Texas, while mentioning open-market and decentralized-market purchases of TXC. He cautioned listeners against taking risks they could not comfortably bear and stressed cryptocurrency’s volatility and dependence on functioning infrastructure. A closing clip from the Tiffany conversation revisited Texas allegations involving an unregistered security and fraud. In that clip, Bobby alleged that the state’s chief investigator had acknowledged knowingly including false fraud claims, and he reiterated his intention to challenge the government’s conduct. No new ruling or resolution was announced. The next Tuesday miner update was set to cover the network, infrastructure progress, and ongoing operational issues.
Oh man, I'm scared. I've never been live by myself before. Where's my co-host? What do I do? Am I saying the right things? Where's his hat? Please, come back. Hey there. What's up, Matty? We made it. We are running from one interview to the next live. It is literal non-stop action over here. Can you hear me? Is this thing on? Yep. I had my speakers off. Were you saying anything? Just referring to what you said. There you are. There you are. You're going to talk a lot more today because I just talked for the last hour. I'm going to find some water and we're going to get this show on the road. Awesome. Yeah. Welcome, everybody. Hit the like and subscribe button. Share this out. You're in the right place for our weekly intro to honest money mining. Is there anybody else that's having this conversation? Are we the only ones? tell me that there's like ten other people right now on i don't care where they are x youtube facebook tell me there are other people somewhere on planet earth right now that are bringing folks together to talk about honest money is that happening anywhere else or is it just us we're we're the ones who've been showing up uh for a hundred and thirty three weeks you specifically yeah It's not like, seventeen years, but it's pretty long. You know, I didn't get into crypto early. I didn't trust it. I didn't like it. I didn't understand it. You know, you go into... these new things with a high level of skepticism and some like tribal mentality. Like I'm a gold and silver guy. I don't cheat on gold and silver with crypto. And, you know, you can look at that two ways. And from one angle, it's, it's romantic. You're staying true to your cause, your people, your beliefs. But from the other angle, you're, you know, you're, dating yourself. You're becoming an isolationist. You're, you know, you're potentially missing out on a new opportunity. You know, some things come along and they're fads and they're gone and you are really happy that you stayed on the sidelines. And other times things come along and they fundamentally change the course of history. I'm sure there were plenty of people that were like computers. You'll see, we'll be back to like abacuses in no time. Phones, mobile phones, that's ridiculous. Like give me a landline and a stretchy cord through the living room into the kitchen and beyond any day of the week over that inconvenient mobile device. Any other really good examples of things that people probably got very wrong? One of the states here in the United States banned its citizens from buying Apple stock when Apple stock first came out because Apple wasn't doing it the approved way of the rest of the financial system. So they protected people. Good job on that one, overlords. No, I'm sure history is full of plenty of examples of people that missed out on And even more examples of people that are happy that they missed out, or dodged a bullet on some terrible thing that came and went. But that's not how it is with money. That's not how it is with money. You see, we've got two options here, clubs or money we can like go out there with guns and baseball bats and beat people up to get the things that we need to enjoy our lives or we can trade with each other like that's it those are the options is is there another option fair and honest trade or pillage and plunder that was the old system that was the the previous thing that we did when we were like barbarians And good for us that we figured a way out of that. Some people are like, well, if it was like the old days, man, the old days were scary. There were some scary things in the old days. And so you take the good, you take the bad out of the evolution of society. But the reality at the end of the day is that if we wanna be civilized, we're gonna trade with each other. And if we're gonna trade, we're either gonna do direct barter my chickens for your barley, or we're going to use some sort of store of value that's more convenient. Gold, seashells, tally sticks, paper, IOUs, warehouse receipts. You got a lot of options out there. And I don't know if we want to get into tonight, like how, when, when and where it all went wrong, because I'm sure that for thousands of years, somebody has been trying to figure out how to rip us off, whether it's wholesale or just the guy next door that's trying to get one over on you. Like fraud isn't new. Fraud didn't just show up with fractional reserve banking. Fraud didn't show up with like, you know, cryptocurrency. Fraud didn't just happen to appear in the sixteen hundreds with the goldsmith. Like the guy that's been trying to do very little and get a whole lot has probably been around for a while. I'm just guessing here. I don't know. Anyway, I digress. Point is that we got to deal with each other openly. Honestly, we got to trade with each other. I can't produce every single thing that my life needs. I'm going to have to figure out how to like use my brain and my hard work and my efforts to create something that I can give to you. and trade something that you've made for the things that you need. Anyway, it's honest trade. And honest trade requires honest money. And for a very long time, I think that the money that the government has offered to us has been extremely dishonest. Any guess on why we're only really paying attention and alert to this kind of now? I mean, I don't mean like today, but like when do you think we crossed a bridge in this realization of dishonest money discussion? I think there's so many ways that the government steals from people. And, you know, there was the compound inflation. There was, you know, taxation. There were all these things. But I don't think the government was always forty trillion dollars in debt. I think there was like a surplus twenty or twenty five years ago. And so now here's another way that, you know, they were being stolen from. I think that's probably a good answer. I think that that's, I don't know if it's right, but I think it's a great answer. And it's, and it might be right because think about it, right? Like we don't know what goes on in Washington, DC. I mean, we don't even know what goes on in Austin or whatever your state capital is. We like wake up. take a shower, make breakfast, go to work, drop the kids off at school, come home, eat dinner, have a couple minutes of family time and go to bed. And we do it. That's what most people do. That's like a life. And so we don't have time to pay attention to every single thing they're cooking up there. But we know from an individual perspective or a family perspective that we've got to balance the budget. This is how much We earn as a family, mommy and daddy bring in. Here's what we need for rent or the mortgage and the car payment and the insurance and this thing and the food. And like at the end, if there's not enough left over, we got to make a change. OK, if things get weird or tight, we can ring up a credit card. But then we're going to have debt that we've got to pay interest on. And that just kind of compounds the problem. And so we look at this and we go, yeah, balanced budget makes a lot of sense for my household. In fact, if I can't do it, I'm gonna become a burden on my family or I'm gonna hit a brick wall at some point. And then all of a sudden we look at like the US national debt and we're like, how much are we in debt? And who's extending us credit? We're a trillion dollars in debt. That's a big number. You ever see any of those fun like graphic visualizations? Like if you stacked, you know, a hundred dollar bills on top of each other, here's how much a trillion is. It goes from like here to really, really far away. It's like an impossible amount of money. It's like, you know, I watched a really great video when I was first learning about this stuff. Maybe not first learning about it, but it was called the hundred million dollar penny. And it's this kid and he's not a video maker or a storyteller. And he's like, I want you to imagine that I gave you a penny, just one penny. But I want you to imagine that that penny is worth a hundred million dollars. We'll call it the hundred million dollar penny. And I want you to imagine that like you have to spend this hundred million dollars. So what do you do? And he goes like virtual shopping. He's like, you buy these supercars and then you buy a jet and then you buy, you know, this. vacation property and then he keeps bringing up like a pie chart of the penny and here's how much of your penny is left right he spends you know ten million and then twenty five million and you pay off all your debt but you only owe like fifty thousand dollars the average household debt so you pay off all the debts for all your friends and relatives and all their friends and you pay off everybody's debt and you still have like fifty million dollars left over and then you start giving away money to this guy or that guy or the other thing or something like that No, thank you. It's a turndown service. And he keeps trying to spend this hundred million dollars and he's only spent like ninety million of it. He's running out of luxury things to buy with his hundred million dollar penny. Anyway, the point is, a hundred million dollars goes really, really, really, really far. And then he goes, let me show you how much the U.S. government spent with the TARP bailout. You remember the TARP bailout? See if you can do some research on the tarp bailout, like when that was. I think it was like, I don't remember. But he takes a bucket full of pennies and he starts dumping these pennies onto his kitchen floor. And like, he's got to speed up the recording because there's just so many pennies that are spilling out everywhere. Every single one of these pennies is worth a hundred million dollars. And and it was, you know, just this fun little visualization to show you how much one hundred million dollars is and then like how much we spent on this bank bailout thing. How much was it? so the yeah the the troubled asset relief program tarp bailout came in october of two thousand eight signed by bush uh and authorized up to seven hundred billion to stable the stabilize the financial system so like most people don't even know what i'm talking about I remember this. Maybe you remember it. I got started in this honest money world back in two thousand and seven because all of a sudden we're taking on this massive amount of debt. Well, we got to bail out the banks. How much did you say? Eight hundred billion dollars. Seven hundred billion. Seven hundred billion dollars. What is that? Seven thousand hundred million dollar pennies. Hold on, let's do the math. Seven hundred million billion divided by a hundred million. You're talking about seven thousand hundred million dollar pennies. It's really hard to spend a hundred million dollars. And to do that seven thousand times over just to bail out the banks. Where does that money come from? Does that come from like Fort Knox where we've got all the gold? Does anyone remember what happened when the bros went down and knocked on the door at Fort Knox to like open the vault and see what was actually hiding inside of there? That story got like swept under the rug. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, we got it. Anyway, debt. Debt is what has brought us to a moment in time where we're becoming really aware and really critical of monetary systems. This boring thing that's so important for society that we don't ever even stop to think about what it is, how it works, where it comes from, who makes it, how federal the Federal Reserve actually is or isn't. Debt. That's what got us to where we are today. And now we're forty trillion. OK, let's see how many hundred million dollar pennies that would be. There's four million billion for forty trillion divided by a hundred million dollar penny. We're talking about four hundred thousand pennies. At one hundred million dollars each worth of debt, it's an it's it's an impossible number. It's just it's it's made up now. It's so big now that nobody takes it even minutely seriously. But it's caused us to go, what are we doing? How does this story have a happy ending? I don't know how it does or if it does, but I know that we can do something about it. And that something about it is called Texitcoin. And it's the... culmination of my life's work in this realm of honest money is culmination of work got even a word yeah did i make a word i've been talking too much i'm just making up words now i got into this game in because when i went on documentary overload and realized that there's a lot wrong that they don't teach us about in school and this american dream might not be what they sold us I looked at this money thing and I said, this is the problem. This is the root of the problem. We've got fake money and we've got psychopaths in charge of the money printer. And they're whipping up trillions of dollars. They're giving it out to their friends and besties. I'm not on the list. I'm not plugged into the money system. I don't have a friend at the Federal Reserve that I can call up when my zombie corporation ain't going to make payroll this week and say, hey, bro, want to buy some more bonds? I don't have those kind of friends. I got to work for mine. If you're listening to this program right now, you probably have to work for yours as well. And so I realized that somebody had to do something about it. And that somebody was going to be Bernard von Nothis, the founder of the Liberty Dollar, who was out there counterfeiting U.S. coins and breaking Ron Paul's number one rule. We can't lie, cheat or steal our way into prosperity. If we're going to circulate a voluntary private barter currency, we might as well tell people that it ain't real money. Is it better money than the paper money the government gives us? Probably. But is it paper money that the government's giving us? No. It's an alternative complementary currency. We got to be upfront with people about that. We can't lie or cheat our way into prosperity. It's the reason that they got shut down. The reason when I started the American Open Currency Standard, I didn't get shut down because I wasn't doing anything wrong. It's the reason that Texitcoin isn't shut down today because we're not doing anything wrong. So what does it feel like to be a part of a project that's doing something important and not doing it wrong and being successful all at the same time? That's Texitcoin. It's hard. It's not easy some days. People make fun of us. People lie about us. People say dirty things about us. Do you ever read the comments? We have comments coming through here. There could be all kinds of terrible things people are saying about us right here. They aren't bad today. Today, the trolls are busy. We've decided to host our program at a troll quiet. The trolls sleep, maybe. Maybe it's nap time for the trolls. That's right. hey how did we do with uh conversation with um tiffany yesterday any follow-up comments any feedback she hated once it went super well she really enjoyed it um i think we enjoyed it and uh um lots of people tuned in what were your reactions i thought it was my favorite one so far i mean look being able to get on a stage or share a screen with ron paul is know it's it's a bucket list thing for me um it's um it's an honor and it's uh like a life accomplishment as far as i'm concerned um gary was a good conversation but it was tough because i couldn't hear much i couldn't see anything i was on a boat um relying on whatever kind of wi-fi connection they were using that probably wasn't starlink um And that was the first one that just went well, was natural, was comfortable. I mean, either she's a great guest or she's a great host or we just did really well together. Hopefully we can have another conversation at some point. And the thing about these calls is that like, we don't have an agenda for them. We're not pitching. We're not selling. We're not chilling. We're not pumping. Like we're just talking. We're just normal people having a conversation unscripted and live like with complete strangers sometimes, which is really great. When a bunch of random people can get together and just share stories and be awkward or not on a public forum in front of how many people were tuned in? Two thousand. That was our biggest call. Yeah. We had at least two thousand live. That's awesome. That's a really powerful thing. And the thing that brings us together to have that conversation is honest money. And so all we're trying to do is get people interested and eventually excited about honest money. And I believe that we don't even have to say Texit coin to them. I believe that if they're intrigued about the idea of honest money and they do a search or two, they'll figure out on their own that Texit coin is the best shot that we've got today of establishing honest money. Why? The tech's good. The people behind it are real and passionate and hardworking. We didn't start it yesterday. This is a project that's going almost twenty years deep. You can go back and read the articles, watch the videos, see the interviews. We didn't show up a week ago to make a quick buck. Even this program itself is on week one hundred and thirty three. And so if you become interested and curious about honest money, you will eventually end up learning about and falling in love with Texacoin. That is my assumption. That is my projection. That is my bet. I am betting the farm. I bet the farm on it a long time ago, but that's my belief. My belief is that this is the best chance we've got at honest money. Same tech as Bitcoin and Litecoin, proof of work, cryptocurrency, same level playing field with rules now that keep the seats reserved for individuals. And that's a really important thing. You know, if a bank can come along and be like, hey, we made all this paper money here. Can we buy our way to the top of your organization? Can we like buy up all the hash power? Because we got this fake money. Everybody else likes it. Do you like it? Well, it can buy a bunch of those hundred million dollar pennies, I guess. But it's against our rules. And so unfortunately, we're going to have to decline. We turned down a lot of really interesting offers over the last two years. Anyway, I digress. We don't even have to be here for a long time today. We were just on X for the last hour talking with Wall Street Bets, which was kind of cool. So I don't know. Is there anything we have to cover today? Any news notices? Did you see in the executive chat what I just put together? You want to talk about that? What you just put together? I just built it earlier today. I don't know. I don't know if I have seen it. Well, then the answer is yes. You do want to talk about it. So... So, okay. So I'll give everybody a bit of a teaser to the hundred and thirty eight people that are tuned in right now. I'll give you a bit of a tease. And it goes like this. Part one, we're building something called seeds. Originally, it was going to be called Sex with Seeds, but that doesn't just sound weird. It is confusing because most people, when they think of sex, they don't think of a centralized exchange. C-E-X was obviously what I meant when I said sex, C-E-X, centralized exchange. the opposite of DEX, D-E-X. Come on, people. We're on a crypto conversation here. Anyway, it was originally called Sex with Seeds. Now it's just called Seeds. So if you go to seeds.honest.money, you can take a glimpse of what I've been working on for a couple months now. And what I've been working on for a couple of months is the world's first and probably the world's only centralized non-custodial exchange. What? Here's how it works today with a traditional centralized exchange. You go to centralizedexchange.com. You click on the create account button. You got to put it in an email address and a two-factor authentication. And then you get hit with the whole on-ramping stuff. Passport, photo. You got to hold up a creepy picture of yourself with like the date and some random word. So you got to like... Hostage photo. Mine are so bad. I hope that the exchanges just delete them because usually I'm not wearing a shirt when I send mine in. It's like, this is what I got today. And they're like, really? That's you? So you have to like on ramp. And then you get to the point where you have to make a deposit. They give you your deposit address and you YOLO your money out there into their account. And then they commingle your funds with everybody else's funds and you get to trading. That's how a centralized exchange works. Do you know, Maddie, anyone that's different than that? Absolutely not. That's how it's done. They all right. The decentralized exchanges are different. You go through a wall like MetaMask or you connect to something like, you know, what are the services out there? Uniswap or PancakeSwap or this swap or that swap or the other swap. There's swap sites out there. You go in there and you say how much you want and then like you figure it out. Anyway, on a centralized exchange, you make a deposit and then you do your trading. And then when you're all done, you click on the withdraw. Please give me my crypto back button. And then you wait. And then you wait. And on some exchanges, sometimes there it is right back onto your mobile wallet or wherever you want it to go. Other times it's your account is under review. For your security, we've decided to not give you your crypto back. And it could take a day or a week or never. Or you don't even get to that button. You go to the website and you get a DNS-DNC-DNC-DNC-DNC-DNC-DNC-DNC-DNC-DNC-DNC-DNC-DNC-DNC-DNC-DNC-DNC-DNC-DNC-DNC-DNC-DNC-DNC-DNC-DNC-DNC-DNC- And pay no attention to the facial reconstruction surgery that he probably got. We're just not going to give you anything ever. Good luck. Remember that story? I mean, there's quadriga CX. Right. Yeah. That's what I'm talking about. That was one of the first exchanges that I used back in like, I was like, really? Huh? Interesting. Yeah. Lots of theories around that one. So, You cross your fingers. When you go to withdraw, maybe you get it, maybe you don't. Or in our example, most recently, the exchange sends you an email and says, we're winding up operations and we will orderly give everyone their funds back, except we're just lying to you right now and we won't give you your money. Anyway, the problem is that you're giving them your crypto. You're trusting them with your crypto. You're handing it over to a third party. They become the custodian of that. And then you wait and you see if it ever works out. And usually it does until it doesn't. And it has not worked out well too many times for us to pretend like it's some sort of rare occurrence. The biggest exchange in the world. Thirteen years ago did it. Mt. Gox, you just mentioned them yesterday with Tiffany. You said their full name, so you know how they got started. Magic the Gathering, online exchange. They were trading like video game digital assets and collectibles and cashing them out sometimes in crypto, Bitcoin. I ran into the founder earlier this year. What, Mark? Yeah, he was at whatever conference I was at, and they were playing Magic the Gathering, like a celebrity game. Yeah. And he's wearing like a Japanese robe or something like weird. Oh, my gosh. You can't make this stuff up. That's amazing. I thought for sure he'd be off the grid. No, no, no. Still here. Probably a billionaire now. Probably mega rich. Who knows? I had my own bankruptcy as well, as we've talked about before plenty of times. So who knows? Anyway, it doesn't work out well sometimes, right? And there are too many examples for us to pretend like it's an isolated thing. And so me in my ever curious, you know, pursuit of solutions says, why can't we have the best of both worlds? Why can't we have, you know, a coordinated centralized exchange that doesn't take custody of your crypto? Well, how is that even possible? What if I give the centralized exchange limited access to my wallet? Here's my wallet. I've got full control of it. But for a limited amount of time, I will give you access to one part of it. And I will move over to that one part of it, what I want to trade. So I'm not risking everything I got. I'm just risking what I want to trade. And I'm trusting that the exchange is going to do what it's been programmed to do. Not give it back to me because I never gave up control of it, but just only do what I've asked it to do. That's the risk. And so if the exchange shuts down, all the money is still there on your wallet. We have the ability to do that with this new tech that I've created in Seeds. Haven't announced it yet. Haven't released it yet. Haven't launched it yet. Go there and check it out if you want, but it's not ready for prime time yet. It might be ready. I just haven't fully signed off on it yet. But I'm messing around with this and I'm really liking it. And I figured out that I'm not like the first guy ever to have not necessarily this idea, but the idea of giving somebody else limited access through a private key to a derivation or derivative address of a wallet. Do you know what that is? I don't. Derivation? Derivation? Yeah, derivation path. There you go. You know what I'm talking about. So apparently when you have a crypto seed, you've got an unlimited amount of addresses, right? And it's like, okay, well, which address is it at zero, zero, zero, zero? What's this one? What is it at zero, zero, zero, zero, one? And this is how it works when like you go into your wallet and you see a new receive address and you're like, oh, that's that's not my wallet address. My wallet address is different. I gave out my wallet address and they paid me. People gave me crypto and now the address is different. It's not going to work. No, no. That's your wallet recycling addresses using a new unique address so that every transaction works. results in a different public key so that it makes it a little bit more private. Cool. Then with one seed, you get access to all of those addresses at the same time. Cool. This is what we call derivation path. I wasn't sure if it was like a derivations. I didn't want to say it until you said it. Now that you've said it, totally on board with knowing exactly what I was talking about the whole time. I knew it the whole time. I was just testing you. So this is a pretty cool feature of what we think of as like an HD wallet. And so now that I'm understanding this technology, I build it into this Seeds thing. So I'm going to give Seeds access to just one limited path in my wallet. I say, go ahead. You can take from here and go do the trades. And if you shut down, I still have my whole entire wallet to take with me. Cool. So here's what I did today. Okay, how do we set it up with Nectar Pay so that people can use an NFC card and tap to pay at a merchant? Well, let's link an NFC card to an honest money ecosystem wallet And then they can say, I will put in this derivation path, this limited path, a hundred bucks. And then that way, when I'm out there tapping my NFC card, I give the system access to that little sliver of my wallet. That's it. We're not handing it over to a custodial service. We're giving programmatically the system access to this one little spot. that if we tap to pay the system goes i've got access to that and i'll pay for that sweet good solution done not only is it a solution but it is done i'm pretty i'm pretty proud of it i'm pretty proud of it and uh and it's just another um little piece of tech little little little piece of tech you know we're not talking about like i've reinvented some new something something like that's what ethereum did bitcoin was humming right along people made copies of that and then ethereum came along and like changed the game and i don't know about you but do you think of i don't think of ethereum as like a cryptocurrency i think of it as like a smart cloud computing system i don't know right yeah it's both They changed it. So I'm not reinventing the wheel over here. I'm just looking at little pieces of tech and saying, what else could we do with them? And remember, I'm always going to orient that idea, that inquisitive curiosity around commerce in the marketplace. So we've got all these people that want to support small businesses. We've got all these small businesses that don't want to get ripped off with fees. So let's connect these two dots. And we're doing it with terminals on one side and with consumers and wallets on the other side. How do we make it easier? How do we make it so that all you have to do is walk in, tap a card, and it's done? Because that's what the credit cards did. That's why you walk into a merchant and they're like, we don't take cash here. Too much work, too much risk. There's a drawer full of money, single point of failure. People are pulling stuff out of their kids these days can't even do the math to make change. So like, how do we give those merchants and those consumers a system that's just as easy as what they've gotten now from the credit card companies and the merchant terminals? Just like that. Voila. Done. Anyway, I digress. I'm out of words today, man. You got anything else you want to talk about or are we going to wrap it up early? I mean, we can wrap it up early. I have a have a thirty five second clip from our from our stream yesterday to show off here at the end. Well, let's say a couple of words and then we will say, Matty, take us away. And we'll say this. We'll say, guys, I'm Bobby Gray. I'm the founder of Texacoin. Like we said a moment ago, this is week one thirty three for us. That means it's been more than two and a half years that I've been sharing my Thursday afternoon or evening. to bring you up to speed on what is happening in my world that I'm passionate about. I'm passionate about honest money. I looked at all the gold and silver stuff that I was doing and thought that it was great, but it was slow. I looked at everything the cryptocurrency industry was doing, and I thought that it was great, but it was wrong. And so I created TechSitCoin to take my knowledge and passion for honest money and build us a rocket ship that could get us to where we want to go, which is easy, fast, accountable money. That's what we've built. It's been a long journey for us, guys. It hasn't all been good and it hasn't not all been easy. but it's been real. We share our time together, communities get together, people, individuals, families, friends, they break bread and they're helping each other figure out how to engage the future of money. It's tough, but it's real. And if you'd like to join us for part of that journey, please do. You can pick up a handful of TXC on an open market somewhere, on a DeFi market somewhere. You can become a miner if you're not in Arizona or Texas. And you can take a seat at that table and join us as we build the future of money with Texacoin. It's my life's work. It's the last thing that I intend on doing as an adult. I'm either going to be sleeping under a bridge in some godforsaken part of the world, or I'm going to be floating off into the sunset in the biggest mega yacht you've never seen before inside the next five years because I did it. I was able to... do my part and help make the world a better place by spreading peace and prosperity for anyone everywhere with honest money that's what i do i do it every day i love what i do i'm having a great time doing it and i would love to have you do it right there by my side with the rest of my spectacular team maddie and so many other people that work on this project every day If that's what you'd like to do, remember, don't take any risks that you're not comfortable with. Realize that crypto is volatile. If the lights go out tomorrow, all bets are off. But if you want to have a great time meeting some really great people and taking on this incredible adventure, please join us. You can go to techsitcoin.org to learn more or go to honest.money.com. to discover this entire ecosystem now that has been, has sprung out of this project that started on a dirt road in McKinney more than a hundred and thirty three weeks ago. So that's me. I'm Bobby. I'm joined by my producer and co-host Maddie, who's got not only better hair and a better hat, but a new baby and a whole adventurous life in front of him and his family as well. Thanks for taking your time. And we will see you guys again on Tuesday for our minor update where we talk about the network and the advancements of our infrastructure and all the things that go right or wrong on a regular basis on our world. Bobby Gray here, joined by Maddie. Maddie, take us away. Thank you. And then Texas was like, yeah, unregistered security, shut it down. Oh, and you're a fraud. But the fraud thing was kind of painful. And then they put on their chief investigator who admits that they lied about all of the fraud claims. Every single one of them were like, you knew that that was not true, but it went into this thing anyway. But I'm not going to let them get away with it. You know, we've gone way out of our way to be honest and upfront with people. We have to hold the government to those same standards.